This section covers special issues that araises when installing HID in Halogen housings

THE BASICS:

The glass capsule in all hid bulbs more or less have equal size, regardless of manufacturer, rebaser or whether its a OE based (p32-d), rebased or custom base. The length of the glass capsule is around 52mm long and requires a hole in reflector of minimum 15mm and a radius of 13mm where return wire is. This means that kits that are ment to fit all headlamps using a specific halogen type bulb, isn't true in real life. In many cases, they will require more space, in one way or another. Making this space is usually possible, but it might introduce other challenges, such as increased glare, reduced reflector area, or irreversable retrofit.

Is an optical shield always needed?

If you can see the filament in the halogen bulb in your current housing while standing in front of your car, you have to use a shield around the HID bulb. Some HID kits supply a shield. If not, you can also make this shield yourself, but it will take time and you will probably need tools and materials. The reason for needing this shield is that HID bulb gives out around 2-3 times the light compared to a 55W halogen. And that is too bright to look at without sunglasses. All free form headlights (glass is not textured) will need a shield. Reflector based headlights with textured glass have a built in dampening in the glass and you might get away without a shield. Projector type headlamps already have built in shields, so there is no worries there.

Picture below: possible glare reducer by high temp painting bulb

The 2 types of glare shields:

  • Black painted bulb mask. By painting more than just the tip, the inside temperature of the bulb will increase and life will decrease.
  • Metal shield

    Shields can be made at home as well, just use either a turkey baster or a touch up paint can as donors. Tuch up paint can is the best choice because the end of the cylinder is closed. The turkey baster is open in both ends, unless you are able to still get the long "spout" into your headlight, which depends on the available depth. Picture below shows how the turkey baster version should look like this after cutting and high temp painting.

    The flat black high temp paint on the shield will absorb almost all light shining on it and convert it to heat. If heat is a concern for you, use flat gray high temp paint. It will not be as hot, and still give enough light absorbtion and deflection for most applications.

    Note that in some cases, glare levels are not possible to bring down to acceptable levels, no matter how good shields you build. Another dead end you can face is that you need to cover up so much of the bulb that the actual gain of using HID is only minor.

    Will output be lost by adding shield?

    Yes and no. First of all we have to separate between useful and useless light. HID bulbs sends out orange/yellow colors downwards, and that is unwanted light. Light that doesnt go downwards towards the road are definatly useless. There is no point in lighting up trees and walls, blinding other traffic and pedestrians. Adding shield will make your beam look much whiter across the beam.

    How close can shield be from bulb glass?

    A metal shield directly on the glass will reflect alot of heat back to the bulb, increase bulb temperature and lower bulb life. Choose around 9mm distance from glass. This will also leave enough space for the high voltage return wire. According to manufacturers specs, distance return wire to foreign elements has to be min. 5mm

    What materials and adehiesives can be used to fabricate shield?

    Expect a bulb temperature of 350-700 degrees Celsius, so stick to metal. Read the Tools and materials section throughly before adding foreign items inside headlight. It is crucial that all items can withstand alot of heat.

    How does shield look like from OEM?

    These pics is taken from the rear of Mercedes reflector headlamp. It is designed to use a D2R bulb. It shows that the lower 180 degrees of reflector is not in use. This is not uncommon among cars with OEM HID reflector based headlamps. It is the pinstriping on the D2R bulb that will determine alot of cutoff line, not the underbelly shield. A similar shield approach can be taken when converting a single filament halogen based reflector headlamp to HID.

    Various Halogen bulbs and HID:
    This section will describe the common factors that are found in headlight types that uses various halogen bulbs. This is in many cases too generic and must be read together with the HID upgrade routes.

    H1 HID:

    Depth: H1 capsule is 19mm (44-25) from base of filament to the tip. The same distance on an HID capsule is 23.3 mm (52.5-27.1-2.1). You should leave 5mm distance for the HID bulb return wire. So the required depth is now 28mm (23.3+5). This means that you need 9mm (28-19) extra depth. In a reflector housing it can hit the glare box, if it exist. In a projector housing, it will typically hit the cutoff shield.

       (Pics are not in the same scale)

    2) Diameter: The hole diameter in the reflector is almost equal (1mm difference). However, the hole has to be made bigger so that the return wire gets its 5mm distance to metal. The return wire is 8.7mm away from the center. Add 5mm and you need 14mm of cutout from the center. Even if you have plastic reflectors this has to be taken into consideration. The reflective material is a chrome substance, and is indeed an electrical conductor.

    H3 HID

    A standard H3 bulb is 55W and is typically found in less critical applications like aux. lighting. H3 bulbs has been found in some low quality Asian aftermarked headlights. H3 has a lateral mount filament, and HID is only fore and aft, so a result of retrofit is that you will end up with garbage.

    H4 HID:

    H4 is constructed to use the upper portion of the reflector only when low beam filament is on. An internal shield in the H4 bulb will reflect light going downwords towards the upper portion. When you turn high beams on, low beam filament will turn off and high beam filament lights up. It is mounted a little away from the low beam filament, so the beam will hit the road further ahead.

    So what happens if you slam an HID bulb in there, correctly mounted in the focal point? Very simply, the entire reflector will be used and even the orange light that normally emits from the lower portion of the HID bulb will be visible on the road. In other words total useless light. By having the HID return wire of the bulb turned down and using an appropiate shield made in stainless steel or aluminum should correct most of it. Both Phoenix MicroLite (Bob) and suvlights.com (Jen L) have premade H4 adapors/shields. Also be aware of possible stray light issues (See above). From time to time Caspers Electronics Inc. (located in Illinois, USA) stock some good quality H4 adapters for D2S bulbs. If you do not see them listed on the site (P/N 103016), inquire per phone. They will not be a plug and play, but it is an excellent basis to make a quality H4 HID retro.

    Many kits out there makes you give up high beam. Some people claim that HID will give you the extra light, so high beam becomes unneccsary. This is not true. There are high/low kits you can use - see "aftermarked Bi-Xenon kits" on this page.

    Physical measurements:
    base to start of filament: 28.5mm
    glass diameter: 17mm
    base to tip of glass: 59mm

    H7 HID:

    H7 specs calls for a distance of 25mm from the base flange to the bottom of the filament. D2S/D2R specs call for a distance of 27.1mm from the base flange to the center of the hid capsule. H7 filament is spec'd to be 4.1mm in length, so distance from base flange to filament center is 25 + 4.1/2 or 27.05mm nominally nearly perfect positioning. Hid capsule size is 4.1mm measured along the longitudinal axis, so even that is very nearly identical to the length of the H7 filament. This is if the H7 filament was centered. But it isnt. Its actually off the center axxis by a 1.5mm in downwords direction.

    H8 HID

    This is originally a 35W bulb for low beam (or fog light). Filament length according to ECE specs is 3.7mm. Other measurements are identical to H9.

    H9 HID:

    H9 is originally a 65W desgined for high beams. Lumes difference up to a 35W HID bulb is the lowest among all halogen bulbs, so this will normally make a good retro. H9 have a 27mm distance from reference plane to bottom of filament.

    H11 HID

    H11 (55W) is designed for headlamps. Filament length according to ECE specs is 4.5mm. Other measurements are identical to H9.

    H13 (or 9008) HID

    Will hit marked in the first years of 2000-2010. Its a 55W/65W dual filament bulb for headlamps.

    9004 HID:

    Like H3, 9004 have a lateral filament wich current longitunal HID bulbs are not compatibe with. Dont wait for any lateral HID bulbs either - they are not going to show up on the marked.

    9006 HID:


    Is generally a good fitment for HID capsule, it has to sit 31.5 - 27.1 => 4.4mm backwords:

    9007 HID:
    In 99% of all housings that utilises 9007, you will never be able to get OEM quality ligthing with an HID upgrade kit. Theoretically H4 has a better success rate than 9007. At least H4 is designed to use top part of reflector only, which helps when you want to decrease light above cutoff. High and low beam are selected by using 2 different filaments above each other. Low beam filament sits above high beam filament. 9007 based reflectors utilises most of the reflector area in both modes. This means that a shield is needed to block bottom part of reflector to hinder yellow light to reach the road. So far so good. But what about the increase light above the bright oval? That will be totally overfilled with glare. Also, filament length is 5mm. The HID filament is 4.2mm. That will make an HID upgraded 9007 have a smaller, distorted and partially intense pattern with possible blacked out center. Outside that you will notice the increased glare.
    Conclusion: If you are able to (do or pay for) a custom job by using stock housings, it will take so many hours to end up with an half decent job that you would be better off taking a part time job and buy OEM HID houses, if they are available. They are available for 98+ Ford F150 and Expedition (directly off of Sylvanias site). Even if you retrofit projectors from a well functioning setup (see OEM HID overview page), into your headlights or create your own bracket, it would still be worth it, qualitywise. Also see the discussion regarding loss of high beam in the H4 section.

    Remaining Halogen Bulb Specifications:

    List 1
    List 2

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